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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:02:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:It's only an easy kill if the victim (and his entire bloody corp) allow it to be.
Doesn't help when flipping pirate has Falcon and at least two Scimis aligned and ready to warp in. Let's not forget that OGB Tengu. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:05:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:Show me a killmail where a canflip lead to this engagement.
Boosting Tengu and logis don't show on killmails. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:12:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Butzewutze wrote:Show me a killmail where a canflip lead to this engagement. Boosting Tengu and logis don't show on killmails. But falcons usually do. Whatever... The point is... i dont think the usual canflipper has offgridboosting, falcons and multiple logis available.
Those who don't have do it wrong then. This game is about unfair pvp in hisec. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:50:00 -
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Quaaid wrote:Opinions aside:
- Can Flipping has risk associated with it.
- Can Flipping can lead to a PvP encounter.
- All else being equal, the Victim of a can flip has the upper hand.
- Currently miner or mission runner can't do much to protect themselves against you.
- Can flipping always leads to pvp encounter. And pirate always wins.
- Pirate has the upper hand always. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:55:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:Bl+¦dsinn.
Show me killmail then. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:05:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U
U know. there are actually people who want to fight canflippers and prepare for them. There are many hulk against X kills on youtube.
Fail. NOS doesn't work that way anymore.
Because you failed to show me a killmail you have to record video of you losing officer fit Tengu to untanked cargo Retriever. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:15:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JwBz89_cQ
2008...
Quote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U
2007...
Quote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxa6fFRtEA
2009
Quote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNZKt2vK9c&feature=related
2008
Fake...
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:21:00 -
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Adalynne Rohks wrote:You just happen to be wrong 
So, you think untanked Hulk can win against 600k EHP Damnation? Yes, I know Damnation's dps is bad, but not bad... |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:33:00 -
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Adalynne Rohks wrote:-Can flipping very often leads to nothing. Most of the time the victim is too worried by the thought of combat, and runs off, or does nothing. Also, it's a pretty simple task to set up a bait can, have a pirate go for it, and blast him before he even realizes what happened. You could either have stealth help, or somebody ready to warp to you immediately after the aggro. of the universe.
Do you know that cloaks mess up your targeting? Even force recons have targeting delay -> pirate warps away.
If miner warps off and returns in pvp ship pirate usually warps away if he see combat ship in d-scan and switches to ship that can kill [insert ship here].
Lol, and I'm not worried about losing something if can flipper is around. I like to waste their time. I'm quite good at it. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:41:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:Oh, the last time i checked bombers did not have a targeting delay after decloak.
Torps against frigate... |
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:47:00 -
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Adalynne Rohks wrote:You seem to think that if the miner has to warp off to avoid combat, then the pirate wins.
- Miner warps to station
- Miner undocks in Caracal and warps back to belt/grav
- Pirate uses d-scan and picks up Caracal on scan
- Pirate warps to safespot/station and switches to Tengu
You probably already know how that will continue. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:50:00 -
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Adalynne Rohks wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Adalynne Rohks wrote:You seem to think that if the miner has to warp off to avoid combat, then the pirate wins. - Miner warps to station - Miner undocks in Caracal and warps back to belt/grav - Pirate uses d-scan and picks up Caracal on scan - Pirate warps to safespot/station and switches to Tengu You probably already know how that will continue. So a miner having to run back to a better combat ship is unacceptable, but fair. But if the pirate has to do it, then that's unfair?
Why do you think Caracal has even a small chance against Tengu? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 19:01:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:Also, most can flippers don't fly Tengus so that shows how much you know.
Every 2 month old newb can fly one. Why would pirates be any different? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2012.08.15 19:12:00 -
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Adalynne Rohks wrote:Well... then why would miners be any different?
Smart miner wouldn't undock in Tengu...
Pirate in Tengu can always tank miner in Tengu even with equal skills. |
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